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Tuesday 18 May 2010

The Hungarian Code of Practice: Etikai Kodex Konduktorok szamara

Andrew Sutton asked about the Hungarian Code of Practice for Conductors in one of his comments on my last post. The "Etikai Kodex Konduktorok szamara" was edited and published by the Magyar Konduktorok Egyesulete.
Herewith I share these two pics taken of the hard copy I have...



5 comments:

Susie Mallett said...

Laci, thank you for all the information you are giving us on your blog.

I have never seen this Hungarian code of practice. I am now wondering why I did not receive a copy when I qualified.

Going back to what you talk about in the original posting where you first mentioned the existance of a code of practice and also to your recent message to me over on my blog, surely one of the best codes is just a combination of all that you say: Friendly, open-minded, sharing relationships
that produce enjoyable, working environments.

Keep on enjoying your present haven,

Susie

Conductive World said...

Susie, it's mystery why you did not get a copy of the Hungarian Code when you qualified since, as indicated by Laci's picture of the front cover, it had already been published (even then!).

Maybe not a mystery, though, if this document was not intended as any sort of absolute statement of Conductors' ethics but rather as a set of requirements for people working within the Hungarian system (i.e. in Hungary). There would be some sense to this, and contrariwise, no sense in tying to establish some sort of possibly irrelevant and certainly unenforceable extraterritorial code.

I suppose that now I shall have to try and find some way of enlarging the text supplied, to the point of being able to read it. I should love to know, if only for comparative purposes, what is regarded as 'ethical' (and 'unethical') for conductors working in Hungary. I suspect that I am not the only one.

I suppose that it would also be interesting to know whether this code has any official status. Hungary being the sort of (European) county that it is, I suspect that it has). Laci, do you know?

All this is rather different from the British code that you reproduced, which seems directly based not upon a Code of Ethics but upon an national disciplinary code imposed upon social workers and people in analogous positions, as part of the now perennial British moral panic/witch hunt over child abuse.

See the URL that I offered in my Comment to your previous posting for documentation of this original. You will also of course see that such a disciplinary code is primarily directed to the employers who are obliged to implement it (or else they may be disciplined too!). It is hard to see how otherwise a national disciplinary code could work.

If you want too know what social workers think of this and the potential control that it gives employers over even aspects of even their private lives. you will find this aplenty on Google.

Laci, you say that conductors considered all this most carefully when they adopted this document. Well, if that is what they and their employers really, really want, good luck to them all.

Andrew.

Conductive World said...

'In the last resort, read the instructions'!

I have only just noticed the full title of the Hungarian Code, which explicitly states that it is for 'conductors working in Hungary'.

This Ethical Code is available on line on the site of the Hungarian Conductors' Association.

http://www.konduktorok.hu/etikai.html

It comes in the context of what I would regard as a kind of compact: what sort of work and working conditions the Association expects in return:

http://www.konduktorok.hu/rendezvenyek.html

These are of course very 'Hungarian. Different conditions of employmenty and work might generate a different set of ethical considerations.

I have no idea how well this 'cpmpacts' related to everyday reality. I am intrigued to hear that conductor students do not receive their copies till they are already trained.

Laszlo said...

Andrew,
You said: "I have no idea how well this 'copmpacts' related to everyday reality."

The Hungarian Ethical Codex is more like philosophycally described, ethical "suggestions" for conductors. It is a philosophy/way of life. The English one a little bit like you wrote:"perennial British moral panic" or "health and safety" policy but less philosophycal Code of Ethics.
BUT: nothing wrong with this. Different culture different understandings.
Laci

Conductive World said...

Sorry, Laci, I disagree. It is nothing to do with culture or societies. Ethical codes and codes of practice are different things in any country, and serve different purposes. Even in the UK people have ethical codes, and I guess that in Hungary there are disciplinary ones too.

The 'compact' that I spoke of was the implicit deal that I thought I saw on the Hungarian Association's site: you provided us with these circumstances to practice our art and in return we will endeavour to act in this way.

What I wondered is whether Hungarian employers are able to meet their end of the deal, and whether conductors are able to deliver theirs.

Certainly, in 'the West' as we used to call it, many (most?) employers will not be able to provide such conditions for conductors' work, so the ethic compact must then surely be different.

And what, I keep asking myself, is the ethical basis for working in camps and families. There must be one, but what is it?